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Recently, this idea came into my mind. I tried to summarize and write it down as clear as possible, following BIP3, which states: "As a first sketch of the proposal is taking shape, the authors should present it to the Bitcoin Development Mailing List. This gives the authors a chance to collect initial feedback and address fundamental concerns." I refrained from forking the github bitcoin/bips tree just to upload one properly formatted document. I am no programmer and unfamiliar to the world of bitcoin developers, so forgive me if I do things which seem strange to you. The main question about this idea is: does a suitable function exists? I thought of discrete exponentiation. But as a former math student, I remember that this does not always work as expected beforehand... All I know that a similar concept is used in Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange and you're more into cryptography as I am. Therefore I thought that it's best to ask this question to you. Maybe you have a better idea. 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