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The primary reason for its removal is because ever since fullrbf became the default In bitcoin core nodes in v28.0 two years back, this signalling has become redundant. However, a point[2] was raised in the review of the above PR that the default input sequence number should be the one that's agreed by the wide wallet community as a best practice. It would be helpful if other wallet developers can share if (when) they have plans to remove this explicit BIP 125 signalling for RBF in transactions. It's also an intention[3] to share an informational BIP later that highlights a recommended input sequence number in transactions. Looking forward to replies from wallet developers in the list. [0] https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0125.mediawiki [1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405 [2] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405#issuecomment-4634469619 [3] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405#issuecomment-4675005759 - rkrux -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/212d5db3-7521-4afd-a551-fda8a6ef09c9n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_77199_1785997413.1781156622632 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello list,

There is an intention in the bitcoin core wallet to = remove the
BIP 125 RBF signalling[0] in transactions for which a PR is= raised[1].
The primary reason for its removal is because ever since f= ullrbf
became the default In bitcoin core nodes in v28.0 two years bac= k,
this signalling has become redundant.

However, a point[2= ] was raised in the review of the above PR that
the default input sequ= ence number should be the one that's agreed
by the wide wallet communit= y as a best practice. It would be helpful
if other wallet developers c= an share if (when) they have plans to
remove this explicit BIP 125 sign= alling for RBF in transactions.

It's also an intention[3] to sha= re an informational BIP later that
highlights a recommended input sequ= ence number in transactions.

Looking forward to = replies from wallet developers in the list.

[0]=C2=A0https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0125.mediawiki
[1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405
[2]=C2= =A0https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405#issuecomment-4634469619
[3]=C2=A0https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35405#issuecomment= -4675005759

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