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From: Jonas Nick <jonasd.nick@gmail.com>
To: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Hash-Based Signatures for Bitcoin's Post-Quantum Future
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 07:25:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34eaa8a5-69c1-4825-8f00-ff6de755ba09@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492feee7-e0da-4d4d-bb7a-e903b321a977n@googlegroups.com>

Hi Boris,

Just to add to what Mike said: one of the most interesting questions is whether
MPC considerations should inform parameter selection. As of right now, the
generic MPC approach seems rather impractical, but that shouldn't discourage
experimentation and further research. It's possible to imagine scenarios where
85-minute signing is acceptable.

Moreover, stateful signature schemes like SHRINCS [0] only require a few hashes
in the best case, which would make MPC-based N/N multisig significantly more
tractable than with full SPHINCS+. However, since SHRINCS signatures are already
small, the absolute space savings are smaller.

[0] https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/shrincs-324-byte-stateful-post-quantum-signatures-with-static-backups/2158

Jonas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-16  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-08 20:28 [bitcoindev] " 'Mikhail Kudinov' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-08 21:50 ` Greg Maxwell
2025-12-09  5:08   ` 'conduition' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-10  0:41     ` Olaoluwa Osuntokun
2025-12-09  8:06 ` [bitcoindev] " Boris Nagaev
2025-12-09 22:48   ` 'Mikhail Kudinov' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-09 23:06     ` 'Mikhail Kudinov' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-10  0:01       ` 'Mikhail Kudinov' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-10  0:14       ` 'conduition' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-10 15:55         ` Jonas Nick
2025-12-10  0:53       ` Olaoluwa Osuntokun
2025-12-16  7:25   ` Jonas Nick [this message]
2026-01-19  1:12     ` 'conduition' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-12-18 18:45 ` Erik Aronesty
2025-12-19  8:36   ` Jonas Nick
2025-12-20  1:14     ` Erik Aronesty
2025-12-24 15:02       ` david torrealba

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