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Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:53:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:130a:b0:441:8f74:f0f with SMTP id 5614622812f47-44f6bab7d3cmr194792b6e.57.1761584007203; Mon, 27 Oct 2025 09:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 2002:a05:690c:38d:b0:74f:1486:e2a9 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-785daab994dms7b3; Sun, 26 Oct 2025 20:41:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:25ca:b0:784:8a26:b76 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-785e0254d6dmr78630017b3.59.1761536516689; Sun, 26 Oct 2025 20:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 20:41:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jal Toorey To: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Message-Id: <5ddcfb0f-665e-4f0e-987e-80b9bb77ff5bn@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] [BIP Proposal] Reduced Data Temporary Softfork MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_93846_1089147419.1761536515996" X-Original-Sender: stew.pendousman4444@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) ------=_Part_93846_1089147419.1761536515996 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_93847_634397310.1761536515996" ------=_Part_93847_634397310.1761536515996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "bitcoin is money" The definition of what is money is extremely subjective. The history of it= =20 shows this (not the history saifedean paints). Trying to direct the=20 development to capture a definition of money opens a huge attack vector.=20 It's not different than trying to decide what is spam.=20 Also what is the difference between the bashers slogan that bitcoin is p2p= =20 money and "bitcoin is money" They seem like the same thing?=20 On Sunday, October 26, 2025 at 3:43:26=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7 Peter Todd wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 08:43:11PM +0000, dathonohm via Bitcoin=20 > Development Mailing List wrote: > > Hi list - > >=20 > > Due to Bitcoin Core v30 gaining in popularity, it has become necessary= =20 > to move forward on [luke-jr's ML proposal]( > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017) to temporarily limit arbitrary= =20 > data at the consensus level, which so far has 3 weeks with no objections: > >=20 > > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017 > > Transaction=20 > 8e2ee13d2a19951c2777bb3a54f0cb69a2f76dae8baa954cd86149ed1138cb6c > contains the full text of this BIP as of writing(1), while simultaneously= =20 > being > compliant with that BIP. > > Clearly, this approach is ineffective. > > 1)=20 > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/3c718237072c107ced8c3531a487354fbdae= 55df/bip-%3F%3F%3F%3F.mediawiki > > --=20 > https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/= 5ddcfb0f-665e-4f0e-987e-80b9bb77ff5bn%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_93847_634397310.1761536515996 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "bitcoin is money"
The definition of what is money is extremely subjective.=C2=A0 Th= e history of it shows this (not the history saifedean paints). Trying to di= rect the development to capture a definition of money opens a huge attack v= ector. It's not different than trying to decide what is spam.=C2=A0
Also what is the difference between the bashers slogan that bitcoin is = p2p money and "bitcoin is money"=C2=A0 They seem like the same thing?=C2=A0=
On Sunday= , October 26, 2025 at 3:43:26=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7 Peter Todd wrote:
=
On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at= 08:43:11PM +0000, dathonohm via Bitcoin Development Mailing List wrote:
> Hi list -
>=20
> Due to Bitcoin Core v30 gaining in popularity, it has become neces= sary to move forward on [luke-jr's ML proposal](https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/20= 17) to temporarily limit arbitrary data at the consensus level, which s= o far has 3 weeks with no objections:
>=20
> https:/= /github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017

Transaction 8e2ee13d2a19951c2777bb3a54f0cb69a2f76dae8baa954cd86149ed113= 8cb6c
contains the full text of this BIP as of writing(1), while simultaneous= ly being
compliant with that BIP.

Clearly, this approach is ineffective.

1) https://github.com/bitc= oin/bips/blob/3c718237072c107ced8c3531a487354fbdae55df/bip-%3F%3F%3F%3F.med= iawiki

--=20
https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org

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