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Firstly I want to echo ev= erything conduition said bu= t I want to raise one further point.

You don=E2=80=99t get to decide. Nor do= I. The market does.

Both bitcoins will, without question, exist - one where= insecure spend paths are disabled (with the exceptions conduition raises, and probably any mor= e we can come up with [1])) and one where they are not, and the market will= decide which it prefers.

I=E2=80=99m quite confident the market is going to= pick the side that has something like 100x less supply, especially if it a= voids burning any coins to the maximum extent possible=E2=80=A6the law of s= upply and demand doesn=E2=80=99t care all that much about our feelings on t= he matter.

Matt


[1] I=E2=80=99ve noted before we should allow for both seed= phrase recovery schemes as well as a commit-before-Q-day-reveal-after schem= e to allow anyone who has keys to non-seedphrase coins to retain ownership = without having to go to chain. This may bee important, for example, for the= owner of the patoshi coins.

On Apr 14, 2026, at 14:51, Erik Aronest= y <erik@q32.com> wrote:

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Deacti= vating ECDSA/Schnorr based schemes should not be discussed seriously. =  

You give people a= lternatives, yes. I'm a big fan of quantum optionality. 

But we cannot have a forced vaccinati= on situation. 


=
There is simply no credible way you can convince so= mebody who is sovereign that their encryption algorithm is broken aside fro= m breaking it. 

Peo= ple can send to bad keys today.

There are lots of op codes that let people shoot themselves in th= e foot 

Bitcoin is = not a nanny state.

"oh n= o someone might break satoshi's keys" 

Let them.  if satoshi's 50 Bitcoin stash keys serv= e to be the bounty that propels humanity to a future of limitless unbounded= magical computing that is not a problem we need to solve right now. <= /div>

The worst possible thing= we could do is confiscate everybody's coin and move to a NISD approved alg= orithm on the say so of large government funded organizations.

That sounds dystopian at best. =







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