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To: TwoLargePizzas Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000769eb60645d6ab2b" X-Original-Sender: gmaxwell@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=dA0cnFla; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gmaxwell@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::632 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gmaxwell@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --000000000000769eb60645d6ab2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 10:05=E2=80=AFAM TwoLargePizzas = wrote: > If the rules don't matter, they won't be bothered if the rules change. > No, that kind of mutual exclusion is often not how things work and isn't how they work here. They absolutely will be valued by this proposal stealing their bitcoins, but their NFT grifting will not ultimately be effected otherwise. When you say "millions of dollars in funds" are you including the value of > the NFTs tied to those sats > No, just the Bitcoin-- but you indirectly make a fine point that it probably ought to be considered too. It's fine that you or I agree that NFT crap isn't appropriate to bitcoin but those harmed aren't beholden to your or my *opinion* and will absolutely seek redress through any and all means for the damage caused to them. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 10:05=E2=80=AFAM = TwoLargePizzas <zarfius@gmail.com> wrote:
If the rules don't matt= er, they won't be bothered if the rules change.=C2=A0

No, that kind of mutual exclusion is often not how thi= ngs work and isn't how they work here. They absolutely will be valued b= y this proposal stealing their bitcoins,=C2=A0 but their NFT grifting will = not ultimately be effected otherwise.

When you say "millions of dollar= s in funds" are you including the value of the NFTs tied to those sats=

No, just the Bitcoin-- but you indir= ectly make a fine point that it probably ought to be considered too.=C2=A0 = =C2=A0It's fine that you or I agree that NFT crap isn't appropriate= to bitcoin but those harmed aren't beholden to your or my *opinion* an= d will absolutely seek redress through any and all means for the damage cau= sed to them.

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