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From: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com>
To: dr.oso.phila.cgeyb@aleeas.com
Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] BIP Idea: Scrambling BIP39 recovery seeds
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:37:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADL_X_d2h_qiNfw0qcH9ii681_8raCX1M0mpyOuFB_2xbw=2zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177470526996.8.13158104493925689779.1256635257@aleeas.com>

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Have you read BIP39 in detail?

It sounds like you're inventing an alternative to the passphrase protection
described here:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki#from-mnemonic-to-seed

On Sat, Mar 28, 2026 at 2:54 PM dr.oso.phila.cgeyb via Bitcoin Development
Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Developers
>
> Thank you for dedicating your time on a thrilling project - Bitcoin.
>
> Recently, this idea came into my mind. I tried to summarize and write it
> down as clear as possible, following BIP3, which states:
> "As a first sketch of the proposal is taking shape, the authors should
> present it to the Bitcoin Development Mailing List. This gives the
> authors a chance to collect initial feedback and address fundamental
> concerns."
> I refrained from forking the github bitcoin/bips tree just to upload one
> properly formatted document. I am no programmer and unfamiliar to the
> world of bitcoin developers, so forgive me if I do things which seem
> strange to you.
>
> The main question about this idea is: does a suitable function exists? I
> thought of discrete exponentiation. But as a former math student, I
> remember that this does not always work as expected beforehand...
> All I know that a similar concept is used in Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange
> and you're more into cryptography as I am. Therefore I thought that it's
> best to ask this question to you. Maybe you have a better idea.
>
> If no idea comes up, well... then it's a dead end.
>
> Best
> Dr. Oso Phila, a small bug
>
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2026-03-28 13:41 dr.oso.phila.cgeyb via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
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