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You give people alternatives, yes. I'm a big fan of quantum optionality. But we cannot have a forced vaccination situation. There is simply no credible way you can convince somebody who is sovereign that their encryption algorithm is broken aside from breaking it. People can send to bad keys today. There are lots of op codes that let people shoot themselves in the foot Bitcoin is not a nanny state. "oh no someone might break satoshi's keys" Let them. if satoshi's 50 Bitcoin stash keys serve to be the bounty that propels humanity to a future of limitless unbounded magical computing that is not a problem we need to solve right now. The worst possible thing we could do is confiscate everybody's coin and move to a NISD approved algorithm on the say so of large government funded organizations. That sounds dystopian at best. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. 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Deactivating ECDSA/Schnorr based scheme= s should not be discussed seriously.=C2=A0=C2=A0
You give people alternatives, yes. I'm a big f= an of quantum optionality.=C2=A0

But we cannot have a forced vaccination situation.=C2=A0


Ther= e is simply no credible way you can convince somebody who is sovereign that= their encryption algorithm is broken aside from breaking it.=C2=A0

People can send to bad keys tod= ay.

There are lots of op= codes that let people shoot themselves in the foot=C2=A0

Bitcoin is not a nanny state.

"oh no someone might break sat= oshi's keys"=C2=A0

Let them.=C2=A0 if satoshi's 50 Bitcoin stash keys serve to be the = bounty that propels humanity to a future of limitless unbounded magical com= puting that is not a problem we need to solve right now.=C2=A0

The worst possible thing we could do= is confiscate everybody's coin and move to a NISD approved algorithm o= n the say so of large government funded organizations.

That sounds dystopian at best.=C2=A0






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