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Case law in the USA regarding = illegal content has always rested squarely on those who:
<= br>=C2=A01 - provide broad public access, in this case a company like OpenS= EA (which has had to block content)
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if punishing "relays" was a thing, then every CISCO router= , SMTP relay and DISCORD server that provided access would be in court all = day long

instead, it's the users of the illegal data and the pub= lishers that actually wind up in trouble - not the internet providers
=

the bitcoin ledger is neither a browser or web server, nor is it a= n image uploader.=C2=A0 there is zero ability to view images built into the= system

and even if it was

the purpose of this software is to= be a distributed and effectively uncensorable ledger.=C2=A0

hopefu= lly it doesn't change because someone launched a meme campaign with vag= ue threats of legal action

if a transaction has /no reasonable = expectation of being mined/ (too expensive to validate, too large, too low = fees), there's also no reason to relay it

this= is probably the best way to set policy

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