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To: Greg Maxwell Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000015fde90645cd5885" X-Original-Sender: melvincarvalho@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=iKubOjZz; spf=pass (google.com: domain of melvincarvalho@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=melvincarvalho@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --00000000000015fde90645cd5885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so 13. 12. 2025 v 0:49 odes=C3=ADlatel Greg Maxwell na= psal: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 9:26=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Voss = wrote: > >> Since the Bitcoin Stamps outputs are already unspendable, it makes >> perfect sense to mark and drop them from the UTXO set. > > > There is no consensus change involved in not storing a provably > unspendable output, it's just an implementation detail with no > interoperability implications and doesn't need a BIP. Bitcoin core has > long done so for several types of unspendable outputs, e.g. outputs over > 10kb and ones starting with OP_RETURN. > Alternative to confiscation: what if miners simply required 100+ sats/vbyte to include transactions spending inscription UTXOs? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/CAAS2fgTjF_e5vLEzp672_jmF82j= DUre0wcZKHB5my8kTdFOGgw%40mail.gmail.com > > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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so 13. 12. 2025= v=C2=A00:49 odes=C3=ADlatel Greg Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> napsal:
On Fri, Dec 1= 2, 2025 at 9:26=E2=80=AFPM Jonathan Voss <k98kurz@gmail.com> wrote:
Since th= e Bitcoin Stamps outputs are already unspendable, it makes perfect sense to= mark and drop them from the UTXO set.

Ther= e is no consensus change involved in not storing a provably unspendable out= put, it's just an implementation detail with no interoperability implic= ations and doesn't need a BIP.=C2=A0 Bitcoin core has long done so for = several types of unspendable outputs, e.g. outputs over 10kb and ones start= ing with OP_RETURN.

Alter= native to confiscation: what if miners simply required 100+ sats/vbyte to i= nclude transactions spending inscription UTXOs?
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