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boundary="----=_Part_130423_1885405110.1762974184082" ------=_Part_130423_1885405110.1762974184082 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Murch, I really like the BIP, just have a question about the editor portion. The list of current editors are currently in the BIP text, which seems to= =20 imply that the list can be changed by the author himself only and would=20 become "static" over time. Clearly support for changing has to continue as it goes to Deployed and=20 beyond. Perhaps the text should be moved elsewhere? Best, Greg On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 8:11:39=E2=80=AFPM UTC-5 Murch wrote: > Dear list, > > After planned work on BIP=E2=80=AF3=E2=81=B0 finished in February, BIP=E2= =80=AF3 was advanced to=20 > Proposed in March 2025=C2=B9. A few minor adjustments were made to BIP=E2= =80=AF3=20 > since then (see below). I have since April maintained a pull request=20 > that would activate BIP=E2=80=AF3: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1= 820. > > At this point,=E2=80=AFBIP=E2=80=AF3 has received over 600 comments on Gi= tHub and has=20 > been discussed in multiple threads on this list. The proposal has been=20 > Proposed for over seven months, and while several minor improvements=20 > were proposed and processed, the proposal has no unaddressed objections= =20 > stated here or on the activation pull request. A growing list of people= =20 > has expressed explicit support for activating BIP=E2=80=AF3 by leaving an= ACK on=20 > the pull request after reviewing the BIP:=20 > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1820#issue-2990155954 > > I formally propose a motion to adopt BIP=E2=80=AF3 to replace BIP=E2=80= =AF2 as our BIPs=20 > Process. > > Since BIP=E2=80=AF2 doesn=E2=80=99t specify a procedure for activating Pr= ocess BIPs, I=20 > suggest that people who wish to state their support leave an ACK on=20 > #1820 or reply in this thread. Similarly, I would like to invite anyone= =20 > to state concerns or raise objections here or on #1820. > While BIP=E2=80=AF3 has long been proposed and the activation PR has been= open=20 > for over half a year, I suggest that we give all would-be reviewers=20 > another four weeks, until 2025-12-02, before evaluating whether there is= =20 > rough consensus for merging the activation pull request. This should be= =20 > ample time to review and discuss BIP=E2=80=AF3 as well as the activation = PR,=20 > even for people that have so far not engaged with the material. > > Best, > Murch > > ---- > > Summary of changes since BIP=E2=80=AF3 was advanced to Proposed: > > - The License header now uses SPDX License Expressions=C2=B2 > - The License-Code header was dropped in favor of requiring that the=20 > license terms of the auxiliary files be specified in the respective=20 > directory or folder per a license header or LICENSE file=C2=B2 > - The =E2=80=9CCreated=E2=80=9D header has been renamed to =E2=80=9CAssig= ned=E2=80=9D=C2=B3 > - The BIP text has been improved to clarify: > - the purpose of the BIPs repository=E2=81=B4 > - that authors should establish viability of their proposal on the=20 > mailing list=E2=81=B4 > - the distinction between publication, acceptance, and adoption of=20 > proposals=E2=81=B4 > - when Draft BIPs can be closed due to not making progress=E2=81=B4 > - that BIPs submissions may not be generated by AI/LLM=E2=81=B5 > > =E2=81=B0 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0003.md > =C2=B9 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1794 > =C2=B2 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1892 > =C2=B3 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1970 > =E2=81=B4 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1819 > =E2=81=B5 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2006 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/= b1771bde-7fbc-4fa3-8151-9259c49f7c97n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_130423_1885405110.1762974184082 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Murch,

I really like the BIP, just have a questi= on about the editor portion.

The list of current= editors are currently in the BIP text, which seems to imply that the list = can be changed by the author himself only and would become "static" over ti= me.

Clearly support for changing has to continue= as it goes to Deployed and beyond. Perhaps the text should be moved elsewh= ere?

Best,
Greg

=
On Tuesda= y, November 4, 2025 at 8:11:39=E2=80=AFPM UTC-5 Murch wrote:
Dear list,

After planned work on BIP=E2=80=AF3=E2=81=B0 finished in February, BIP= =E2=80=AF3 was advanced to=20
Proposed in March 2025=C2=B9. A few minor adjustments were made to BIP= =E2=80=AF3=20
since then (see below). I have since April maintained a pull request=20
that would activate BIP=E2=80=AF3: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1820.

At this point,=E2=80=AFBIP=E2=80=AF3 has received over 600 comments on = GitHub and has=20
been discussed in multiple threads on this list. The proposal has been= =20
Proposed for over seven months, and while several minor improvements=20
were proposed and processed, the proposal has no unaddressed objections= =20
stated here or on the activation pull request. A growing list of people= =20
has expressed explicit support for activating BIP=E2=80=AF3 by leaving = an ACK on=20
the pull request after reviewing the BIP:=20
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1820#issue-299= 0155954

I formally propose a motion to adopt BIP=E2=80=AF3 to replace BIP=E2=80= =AF2 as our BIPs=20
Process.

Since BIP=E2=80=AF2 doesn=E2=80=99t specify a procedure for activating = Process BIPs, I=20
suggest that people who wish to state their support leave an ACK on=20
#1820 or reply in this thread. Similarly, I would like to invite anyone= =20
to state concerns or raise objections here or on #1820.
While BIP=E2=80=AF3 has long been proposed and the activation PR has be= en open=20
for over half a year, I suggest that we give all would-be reviewers=20
another four weeks, until 2025-12-02, before evaluating whether there i= s=20
rough consensus for merging the activation pull request. This should be= =20
ample time to review and discuss BIP=E2=80=AF3 as well as the activatio= n PR,=20
even for people that have so far not engaged with the material.

Best,
Murch

----

Summary of changes since BIP=E2=80=AF3 was advanced to Proposed:

- The License header now uses SPDX License Expressions=C2=B2
- The License-Code header was dropped in favor of requiring that the=20
license terms of the auxiliary files be specified in the respective=20
directory or folder per a license header or LICENSE file=C2=B2
- The =E2=80=9CCreated=E2=80=9D header has been renamed to =E2=80=9CAss= igned=E2=80=9D=C2=B3
- The BIP text has been improved to clarify:
=C2=A0 - the purpose of the BIPs repository=E2=81=B4
=C2=A0 - that authors should establish viability of their proposal on = the=20
mailing list=E2=81=B4
=C2=A0 - the distinction between publication, acceptance, and adoption= of=20
proposals=E2=81=B4
=C2=A0 - when Draft BIPs can be closed due to not making progress=E2= =81=B4
=C2=A0 - that BIPs submissions may not be generated by AI/LLM=E2=81=B5

=E2=81=B0 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0= 003.md
=C2=B9 https= ://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1794
=C2=B2 https= ://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1892
=C2=B3 https= ://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1970
=E2=81=B4 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1819
=E2=81=B5 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2006

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